Posts by dark3001

There's a way to mod the game using Cheat Engine, explained in another thread of mine in this forum.

Jaghith wrote:

Hi. i am new in this forum, but i have played Patrician 3 and 4 for a long time. I can mod patrician 4 production and almost everything, but i dont know how to do the same in patrician 3, can u help me? i want to make more profitable the production buildings and modify many other things like that.

Thank u in advance

Not sure how you mod Patrician 4, but in Patrician 3, there was a chinese program written to change the production and stuff (called P3 Insight). Unfortunately the program is not getting anymore update, it doesn't work in Windows 7 or 10 (only in XP).
I think the they sort of decoded the structure of the memory saved in the game, therefore they could change a lot of things in the game, such as any numbers (money, goods), production, size of cannons (so you can fit more cannons in a ship), buildable area in cites etc.

You could try to mod these using the program Cheat Engine, I think it's doable, it's just time consuming to decode the memory structure.

Artis wrote:

Can You please upload Your Patrician3.exe ?

Here's mine. I've set the cities limit to 40, so if you still want to do any destroy pirates hideout mission, you'll probably want to avoid building up to 40 cities, as I don't know what will happen when that happen.

Dante wrote:

For the goods offered on the new city there is an in game way: by creating a shortage of a certain product (see this I have translated Tippsammlung_2010 in english ) There is a chapter related.

I've read about that before, but it is way way too much trouble to create shortage of products to get the production I need, and I don't find it fun to do.

And it is most probably bugged, as it is supposed to just give you whatever production that Hanse needs most, not the next one up alphabetically (in German).

Easiest and fun way is still just use a cheat program to change the city production, and just build up from there.

I've got the HD mod from steam forum. But the graphics would feel too slim for now, I guess I've gotten too used to playing it on widescreen monitor without HD resolution. I have since reverted back to non-HD resolution.

You could say it's cheating, but these are ways to make the game even more fun for us. Cheating with the gold and goods will most probably remove the fun from the game, but removing the limit of city building number will undoubtedly add more fun for most players.

Though currently I'm still looking at how to modify the goods production of new towns.

I found that some Chinese softwares called P3 Insight is able to do it, however it only works in Windows XP. It is quite a bit of work for me to search for the correct memory address for city goods production in Cheat Engine.

Dante wrote:

I would like some insight here if anybody knows: the alt tab issue (the game keeps crashing when alt tabbing in win 10). I tried several things, like various compatibility modes, analyzing logs and whatnot but ultimately I didn't find much useful info (apphelp.dll will ultimately crash, but this is not the source of the problem; it is just where the game dies).

Not sure about you, I'm able to alt-tab in Windows 10 to use Cheat Engine without issue. All I had to do is just ticking the box that says "Override high DPI scaling behaviour", which is just below the compatibility modes. Did you try this?

Now you can exit the game, start up HxD (a hexeditor), and drag your Patrician3.exe game file into the HxD window. And look for the address 1340FC, note the same pattern as seen in Cheat Engine 83 7D 10 28 (or 1A for you).

Just modify the 1A to 28 and save the file. Remember to make a backup of the file in case you mess something up. Now you should be able to build up to 40 cities in game. Enjoy!

Then right click that line and click "Show this address in the disassembler":

And mark down the address next to the Patrician3.exe. My version now says 1340FC which is a different version from when I did it the first time above. In the "Bytes" column it says something like 83 7D 10 28 (or 83 7D 10 1A for you), you should be able to see the same pattern in your hexeditor.

Then alt tab back to cheat engine and press the stop button at the bottom right corner of the new debugger window, and find the string "cmp dword ptr", and in your screen it should say 1A, but mine I've modified it to 28 (which represents 40 in hexadecimal)

Then go back to your game, load a saved game where you are Lord Mayor, go to the Alderman office for task. This step is crucial as it is the only time when the game checks if you have more cities than its limit. .

Now the next few steps needs to be done relatively quickly. First right click on the result and click on "Find out what accesses this address":

If there are still a few more results in the left, then repeatedly load the game and enter the number cities in the box and press "Next scan", until you have only one result left.

Then load your game which you have different number of cities, like the ones you have already built up to 26, or like mine I have 32 cities on the map now, then enter the number of cities on your map into the Value box and press "Next scan":

Then key in the number of current cities in the text box then press "New scan", if you're using a new standard map, then you should have 24 cities in your map currently.

Then alt-tab to your cheat engine, and press the button "Select a process to open" and select Patrician3.exe then open it.

Then start the game. Load any saved game or start a new game:

However I can run you through the full process of modding your game.

First download a software called Cheat Engine and open it, it's a free software:

Unfortunately I'm not able to help you as the game won't start with your file.

I may need to download your whole game folder in order to start the game for your version.

Here's the error I got when using your file.

Let me add, this mod will work with any previously saved game. So you just need to modify the Patrician3.exe and load your previous game, you should now be able to get another city building task in the Alderman office (up to the number of cities you set).
For the speed of battle, I still haven't got a clue of how to mod it. Perhaps I should leave it for now.

Seems like no one knows about it.
Fortunately I'm a programmer myself, I found out how to mod the game allowing me to accept city founding missions bypassing the 26 cities limit.
I've done the hard work of finding out which address you need to modify using a free program called Cheat Engine.
If anyone else is interested, you just need to modify the value of address 13275F using a hex editor. The original value is 1A which is 26 in decimal and you can change it to any number you like, such as 28 (40 in decimal) so you get to build new cities up to 40 in total.
Note I never tested with a number more than 40, I think that may crash the game if you decide build another city when you already have 40 cities on the map, so try at your own risk. I don't recommend having it at 40 though, as it may mess up the pirate hideout mission.
If anyone else is interested, I can also attach my copy of Patrician3.exe so you don't need to do the "cracking" yourself. I only have the English version 1.1 though, don't ask me for version of other languages as I don't have any other versions.

Not sure if this forum is still active.
Does anyone know how to mod the game?
I bought the Patrician 4, played a number of hours, well they have added a lot of good stuff in it (like improved auto trade route management system, university research system, inland cities founding etc) but more things were removed.
In the end, I found that I still enjoy Patrician 3 much more than 4. However there are a some things I would like to modify.

One: if I start a game with the default map, there are only 24 cities, and I'm only able to get 2 city building missions from Alderman's office.
I know I can change the number of starting cities in the mapeditor, or even the German MapAdjust tool, but I just like to be able to build cities that I can fully control with less production items, it is quite fun.
If I start a game with like 38 cities on the map, I won't get any city building mission from the Alderman's office. There seems to be a hard limit that says "If the map has more than a certain number of cities, then do not offer any city building mission". Does anyone know what is this city number limit which you still get the city building mission? Or even better does anyone know how to change this number?

The second thing I would like to mod is the speed of time in battle. It is a little too slow at times if I want to sail my ship to the other side of the screen, especially when the wind is against me.